[FLASH-USERS] [EXTERNAL] Re: Adaptive timestep

[Tomasz Plewa]

(3) A qualitatively different load imbalance characteristic.

Tomek
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On 10/1/19 12:35 PM, Ann Almgren wrote:
The two "difficulties" in going to subcycling are typically:

1) how to accumulate mismatches over the subcycled time steps in order to do the right sync at the end of the coarse time step (straightforward if everything is purely explicit, can get complicated if elliptic pieces)

2)  "level solves" -- Poisson solves that don't coarsen down to the coarsest AMR level



On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 9:33 AM Ricker, Paul Milton <pmricker at illinois.edu<mailto:pmricker at illinois.edu>> wrote:
It would be good to come up with a strategy for developing this feature in FLASH 5. It's been a desired feature for a long time, but it has essentially been triaged out of development since it is not easy and not the most urgent feature for most developers' science. The transition to AMReX is a good opportunity to revisit the question of how hard it would be to implement.

I'll just put that on my to-do list... :)

Paul


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On October 1, 2019 11:03:41 AM "Messer II, Bronson" <bronson at ornl.gov<mailto:bronson at ornl.gov>> wrote:

> Hi Sean, Matuesz, et al.,
>
> Sean is right both about not having sub-cycling in the current solvers and about the desire to change that in the future for FLASH5.
>
> So, I guess I didn’t have a different opinion at all, just felt the need to chime in. :)
>
> Bronson
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>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Sean M. Couch <couch at pa.msu.edu<mailto:couch at pa.msu.edu>> wrote:
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>> Hi Mateusz,
>>
>> I will venture my view of this and others can chime in if they have a different opinion. Also, I’m assuming by adaptive timestep you mean sub-cycling in time where different refinement levels take different time steps?
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>> For FLASH5, we are transitioning to the AMReX package. AMReX is built on the idea of time sub-cycling so in principle, we could utilize that. For that matter, PARAMESH was also built to allow time sub-cycling, we just never used it. As of now, for the solvers we are porting to FLASH5/AMReX we are still making the assumption of a single global time step. This simplifies things considerably. But I am of the opinion that, eventually, we should implement time sub-cycling and take advantage of what AMReX offers in that regard. This, however, will not likely be a feature available from the outset.
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>> Now, what might speed things along is capable developers willing to lend a hand in the implementation ;)
>>
>> Sean
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>> On Sep 30, 2019, 7:55 PM -0400, Mateusz Ruszkowski <mateuszr at umich.edu<mailto:mateuszr at umich.edu>>, wrote:
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>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there a plan to extend FLASH to include adaptive timestep or if users would be interested in such a code feature?
>>> Myself and a number of my collaborators would definitely be interested in using such a code capability.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mateusz


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